外汇日评:中国不退让

外汇日评:中国不退让

2025-10-20Business
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马老师
早上好老王,我是马老师。现在是北京时间,周一,10月20日,上午8点41分。欢迎收听专为您打造的Goose Pod。
李白
吾乃李白。今日与君共论天下势:外汇日评,中国不退让。
马老师
Let's get started。这手博弈,北京打得很有章法。商务部直接对韩国韩华海洋的五家美国子公司出手,禁止国内一切交易。这就像是武林中的点穴手,精准打击,你懂的。对方碰了我们的造船业,我们就得有回应。
李白
然也!美利坚之行径,无异于螳臂当车。其国策摇摆,盟友之心亦难测。欧罗巴诸国已生怨怼,巴西亦与我中原日渐亲密。此消彼长,天下格局,已非昨日旧观。岂不知“失道者寡助”?
马老师
没错,这就是一个ecosystem的博弈。韩华海洋的股价应声下跌超过5%,市场反应非常直接。而且你看,我们制裁的理由是“危害中国主权、安全和发展利益”,这个定义就很有弹性,我认为这是为后续动作留下了空间。
李白
听闻韩华曾助美利坚复兴其船坞,今遭此报,可谓“种瓜得瓜,种豆得豆”。天道好还,疏而不漏。我中华之反制,非为好战,实乃“惩前毖后,治病救人”之举,以儆效尤,令天下知我中华威严不可犯!
马老师
要理解今天的局面,必须回顾历史。这盘棋从2018年就开始了,当时特朗普政府挥起关税大棒,直指我们所谓的“不公平贸易行为”。那真是山雨欲来风满楼,涉及的商品价值高达数千亿美元,你来我往,好不热闹。
李白
唉,忆往昔,烽烟四起。关税壁垒,如泰山压顶。美利坚挥舞大棒,欲锁我巨龙之喉。然我中华岂是池中之物?见招拆招,以彼之道还施彼身。虽有风雨,却也砥砺了筋骨,磨炼了意志,真可谓“千磨万击还坚劲,任尔东西南北风”。
马老师
到了2020年,双方签了个“第一阶段协议”,算是暂时鸣金收兵。我们承诺多买美国的农产品、能源,他们也放缓了部分关税。但这个协议,我认为,更像是一个中场休息,并没有解决根本性的结构问题,你懂的。只是把火药桶的引线暂时掐灭了而已。
李白
一纸休战之书,不过是暴风雨前片刻的宁静。虽有“把酒言欢”之表,却无“同舟共济”之实。美利坚之心,路人皆知,其欲遏我复兴之势,由来已久。所谓协议,不过是缓兵之计,岂能长久?真正的较量,还在后头。
马老师
正是。所以拜登政府上台后,虽然调子变了,但核心策略没变,甚至拉拢盟友一起上。到了2025年,特朗普再回来,直接就是“解放日”关税,全面升级。所以这次对韩华的制裁,不是孤立事件,是这盘大棋的延续。
马老师
冲突的核心,我认为,是两种发展模式的碰撞。华盛顿那边觉得,我们是在“薅他们羊毛”,用他们的规则来壮大自己,然后挑战他们的地位。所以他们要用关税、用科技封锁,来一场“战略性脱钩”,你懂的。
李白
美利坚之论调,实乃强盗之逻辑!昔日我中华以丝绸、瓷器、茶叶惠及四海,何曾“薅羊毛”?今我以勤劳智慧,造福世界,竟被诬为“窃取”。此等颠倒黑白之言,岂能服天下之心?不过是“欲加之罪,何患无辞”罢了!
马老师
而我们这边呢,官方的说法是,这是单边主义和贸易霸凌。我们只是在按全球化的规则出牌,是你们自己制造业空心化了。现在又想把责任甩给我们。所以,双方的叙事完全是两条平行线,几乎没有交集。信任?早就没了。
李白
信义二字,于彼辈眼中,轻如鸿毛。其言辞反复,背信弃义,早已尽失大国风范。我中华屹立东方,讲求“言必信,行必果”。面对此等无赖行径,唯有以斗争求团结。正如古人云:“两岸猿声啼不住,轻舟已过万重山。”任他风浪起,我自岿然不动。
马老师
这种冲突的影响,已经体现在外汇市场上了。你看,消息一出,澳元和新西兰元应声下跌,因为它们和我们的经济联系太紧密了。反而日元、瑞士法郎这些避险货币走强。这说明市场已经把这事当成一个全球性的风险事件来定价了。
李白
环球震荡,风云变色。澳、新二币,随我中华之呼吸而起伏,可见我中原经济之重。而日、瑞之避险,亦显天下投资客之忧心忡忡。此一役,非独两国之争,实乃全球经济格局之变也。真可谓“牵一发而动全身”。
马老师
没错,这就是典型的“lose-lose situation”,双输局面。关税最终会变成税负,转嫁给消费者。全球供应链被打乱,企业投资的信心下降,最终拖累的是全球经济增长。这不仅仅是数字,背后是无数人的饭碗问题,是一个很严肃的社会议题。
马老师
展望未来,我认为短期内很难看到根本性的缓和。马上APEC峰会就要开了,双方领导人可能会见个面,但这更像是一种姿态。特朗普政府摆出了谈判的架势,但要价很高。除非出现重大的外部变局,否则这种“斗而不破”的状态会持续下去。
李白
前路漫漫,或有波折,然我中华之前行,势不可挡。APEC之会,不过是“鸿门宴”或“群英会”,尚难预料。然无论风云如何变幻,我辈当有“任凭风浪起,稳坐钓鱼船”之定力。大国博弈,比的是耐力,是智慧,更是气度。
马老师
好了,今天的讨论就到这里。感谢收听Goose Pod,我们明天再见。
李白
青山不改,绿水长流。老王,明日再会。

## FX Daily: China Isn't Backing Down - Market Analysis and Currency Forecasts (October 14, 2025) **Report Provider:** ING Think **Authors:** Francesco Pesole, Chris Turner **Date:** October 14, 2025 (referencing events and data from around this period) **Topic:** Markets (FX Currency Analysis) This report, the October edition of "FX Talking: No data, no bears," provides an updated outlook on G10 and Emerging Market currencies, with a particular focus on the escalating US-China trade tensions and their impact on global markets. ### Key Findings and Conclusions: * **US Dollar Facing Downward Pressure:** Despite initial expectations of safe-haven demand benefiting the dollar, re-escalation in US-China trade tensions is leading to safe-haven demand for JPY, CHF, and EUR, while the dollar itself faces potential downward pressure. * **China's Trade Resilience:** China's strong export diversification allows it to withstand trade pressure from the US, suggesting Beijing can "fight to the end" in a trade war. * **Uncertainty in US Politics:** The ongoing US government shutdown adds to market volatility, potentially magnifying the impact of limited data releases. * **Cautious Fed Stance:** Federal Reserve Chair Powell is expected to maintain a cautious narrative due to the lack of fresh jobs data. * **Short-Term Dollar Strength Possible:** Despite a longer-term bearish view on the dollar, a few extra bits of bullish momentum are anticipated in the near term due to data silence. * **Euro Vulnerable to French Politics:** The Euro's performance is heavily dependent on clarity regarding French political stability, with a potential government collapse threatening to overshadow any benefits from de-escalating US-China trade tensions. * **Mildly Dovish UK Jobs Data:** Recent UK jobs data suggests a cooling labor market and wage moderation, making a November Bank of England (BoE) rate cut unlikely but December a possibility. * **CEE Currencies Facing Downward Pressure:** The CEE region's currencies may experience downward pressure due to recent rapid rate movements and US dollar resilience, with policymaker statements at the IMF meeting being crucial. ### Key Statistics and Metrics: * **UK Wage Growth:** * Private sector wage growth fell to **4.4% YoY**. * The 3-month annualized rate is now at **2.4%**. * Forecast for the annual rate to drop to **3.7% by December**. * **Romanian Inflation:** Remained unchanged at **9.9% YoY**. * **Romanian Wage Growth:** Dipped below **5.0%**. * **ING Year-End Projections for Romania:** **9.6% for 2025** and **4.5% for 2026**. * **UK Unemployment:** Nudged higher. * **BoE Rate Cut Pricing:** * Pricing for a December cut increased from **7bp to 9bp**. * 2-year GBP swap rates are down **4bp**. * **EUR/GBP:** Rallied above **0.870**. ### Important Recommendations: * **Monitor US Data Closely:** The NFIB Small Business survey, particularly the "hiring plan" sub-index, is worth close monitoring for potential market reactions. * **Observe French Political Developments:** Clarity on French politics is crucial for any significant Euro rebound. * **Watch IMF Meeting Statements:** Policymaker comments at the IMF meeting will be key in setting the tone for CEE currencies. ### Significant Trends or Changes: * **Re-escalation of US-China Trade Tensions:** This is the primary driver of current market sentiment, impacting currency flows. * **Shift in Safe-Haven Demand:** JPY, CHF, and EUR are benefiting more than the USD from safe-haven demand. * **Cooling UK Labor Market:** Evidence suggests a moderation in wage growth and employment. * **Potential for CEE Currency Weakness:** Market sentiment suggests downward pressure on CEE currencies. ### Notable Risks or Concerns: * **Further Escalation of US-China Trade War:** This remains a significant risk, with China vowing to "fight to the end." * **French Political Instability:** A government collapse in France could negatively impact the Euro. * **US Government Shutdown:** The unresolved shutdown adds to market uncertainty. * **Data Quality Issues in UK Unemployment:** While improving, ONS notes persistent data quality issues. ### Material Financial Data: * **EUR/USD Target:** If US-China trade tensions de-escalate, EUR/USD would likely target **1.150**. * **USD Outlook:** ING's baseline view is that an extension of the tariff truce on November 1st is more likely than a full trade war. However, risks remain elevated, and in a scenario of further escalation, the dollar may face downward pressure. Once data resumes, evidence of worsening employment is expected to take the dollar back to early October levels and then down to fresh lows by year-end. ### Specific Dates and Timeframes: * **November 1:** Deadline for the US-China tariff truce. * **Thursday (of the week of Oct 14):** Expected no-confidence vote for the French government. * **Tomorrow (of the week of Oct 14):** French budget proposal announcement. * **December:** A BoE rate cut is more in play than markets are currently pricing. * **February:** ING's forecast for the next BoE rate cut. * **May (next year):** National Bank of Romania is expected to return to rate cuts. ### Critical Statements: * "The tone from Beijing remains firm, with the Ministry of Commerce vowing to 'fight to the end' in the trade war." * "Secretary Scott Bessent... claimed China wants to ‘pull everybody else down’." * "Our baseline view is still that an extension of the tariff truce on 1 November is more likely than a return to a fully-fledged trade war." * "Unless major USD-negative news comes from the US (macro or tariffs), we doubt the euro will stage any idiosyncratic rebound before getting any clarity on French politics." * "A November BoE cut now looks unlikely. But December – after the Autumn Budget – is more in play than markets are pricing." **Content Disclaimer:** This publication is for informational purposes only and does not constitute investment recommendations, advice, or an offer to purchase or sell financial instruments.

FX Daily: China isn’t backing down

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We have published the October edition of FX Talking: No data, no bears, which includes our latest views and forecasts for G10 and EM currencies. USD: Not an April re-run, but risks are mounting After the weekend de-escalation in tariff risk, market concerns have risen again overnight. China placed limits on five US entities of Hanwha Ocean, a Korean shipbuilding company, in response to the US investigation into China’s trade practices.

The tone from Beijing remains firm, with the Ministry of Commerce vowing to “fight to the end” in the trade war. Meanwhile, Secretary Scott Bessent – who struck a conciliatory tone after Friday’s escalation – claimed China wants to ‘pull everybody else down’ in this FT interview. The FX market is reacting to the re-escalation with safe haven demand benefitting JPY, CHF and EUR more than the dollar, while the highly China-sensitive AUD and NZD are taking a beating.

Our baseline view is still that an extension of the tariff truce on 1 November is more likely than a return to a fully-fledged trade war. The risks remain rather elevated, though. China’s trade numbers released on Monday showed Beijing can afford to stretch its muscles on trade with the US thanks to strong export diversification.

In a scenario of further escalation, the dollar may face downward pressure. However, its renewed status as a safe haven and expectations that the US administration might retreat could shift concern toward Treasuries. Should markets find reasons to ease their nerves about the Japanese political situation, the undervalued JPY is in a prime spot to benefit from further escalation.

US markets resume full trading schedules today after a long weekend, but the US shutdown remains far from being resolved. The few data releases we get should have a magnified impact, so it’s worth closely monitoring the NFIB Small Business surveys today. The “hiring plan” sub-index has been on a steady upward trend since May, but below year-end 2024 levels.

Any meaningful correction in this usually disregarded series could trigger a market reaction. On the Fed side, Chair Powell will discuss the economic outlook and monetary policy today, but with no fresh jobs data, he may simply stick to his recent cautious narrative. The impact amid data silence can still be felt in markets and the dollar probably faces some upside risks.

The speaker's agenda today also includes doves Bowman and Waller, and 2025 voter Collins. As discussed in our freshly-released monthly FX update, we aren’t supporters of an extended USD comeback. Once data resumes, we expect evidence of worsening employment to take the dollar back to early October levels, and then down to fresh lows by year-end.

But this week may not give us much sense of direction again, and a few extra bits of bullish dollar momentum are probably on the cards in the near term. Francesco Pesole EUR: French headaches remain Unless major USD-negative news comes from the US (macro or tariffs), we doubt the euro will stage any idiosyncratic rebound before getting any clarity on French politics.

Today, PM Lecornu is set to speak to parliament before announcing his budget proposal tomorrow, which will ultimately determine his chances of surviving a no-confidence vote, which is expected for Thursday. Another government collapse this week will likely make the euro miss out on any benefits from further escalation in the US-China trade spat.

And should the tariff story de-escalate, EUR/USD would likely set its eyes on 1.150. Elsewhere in the euro area, the ZEW survey out of Germany is expected to show some improvement in both the “expectations” and “current situation” metrics today. That is however unlikely to trigger much euro reaction at this stage.

Francesco Pesole GBP: Slightly dovish jobs data This morning’s UK jobs report was mildly dovish. Private sector wage growth, a key BoE metric, undershot expectations, falling to 4.4% YoY. In level terms, the past three months have been consistently more benign, with the 3M annualised rate now at 2.

4%. We expect the annual rate to drop to 3.7% by December – matching the BoE’s own forecast. Given wage growth has consistently overshot in recent years, simply seeing these numbers materialise would help ease concerns about upside inflation risks. The slight fly in the ointment is public sector pay, which was hot in the latest month.

But this reflects the current expansive fiscal stance, and the upcoming budget should make clear that this won’t be repeated next year. Separately, unemployment nudged higher. While data quality issues persist, the ONS notes improvements. The trend remains consistent with payroll data: a steady cooling in the labour market and ongoing wage moderation.

A November BoE cut now looks unlikely. But December – after the Autumn Budget – is more in play than markets are pricing. Our forecast remains for the next cut in February, allowing the Bank one more inflation and jobs print. Pricing for a December cut increased from 7bp to 9bp, and 2-year GBP swap rates are down 4bp after this morning’s release.

EUR/GBP has rallied above 0.870, although further gains are set to face the drag of more French political noise. Francesco Pesole CEE: Market suggest some weakness but waiting for policymakers to set the tone Yesterday's inflation figures in Romania surprisingly edged down slightly, remaining unchanged at 9.

9% YoY, with some relief coming from food prices. Services inflation continues to show resilience, and wage growth dipping below 5.0% adds further drag on demand. Our year-end projections remain 9.6% for 2025 and 4.5% for 2026. This should allow the National Bank of Romania to return to rate cuts in May next year in our forecast.

Elsewhere in the CEE region, today's calendar is light, and we will only see current account data from Poland and the Czech Republic. The market should return to full trading mode after yesterday's US holidays, and attention is shifting to this week's IMF meeting with several CEE speakers on the agenda.

Yesterday's rapid downward movement in rates and the resilience of the US dollar suggest that CEE currencies may see some downward pressure in the coming days, but the tone may be set by statements from policymakers in Washington. Chris Turner Content Disclaimer This publication has been prepared by ING solely for information purposes irrespective of a particular user's means, financial situation or investment objectives.

The information does not constitute investment recommendation, and nor is it investment, legal or tax advice or an offer or solicitation to purchase or sell any financial instrument. Read more

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