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A New York Times Opinion podcast argues A.I. should be regulated after a panicked summer, including a hallucination that triggered military preparations toward a Chinese ship.
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# The Wild West of A.I. Needs to End. Here’s How.
It’s time to give the public what it wants: A.I. regulation.
By David Wallace-Wells and Binyamin Appelbaum
Produced by Derek Arthur
It isn’t normal to see the people developing new technology “running around shouting that the sky is falling,” Binyamin Appelbaum argues. So how do we make A.I. safe? By regulating it. Appelbaum, the lead writer on economics and business for The Times’s editorial board, joins the Opinion science writer David Wallace-Wells to discuss.
(The New York Times has sued OpenAI and Microsoft claiming copyright infringement. The companies have denied those claims.)
Below is a transcript of an episode of “The Opinions.” We recommend listening to it in its original form for the full effect. You can do so using the player above or on the NYTimes app, Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music, YouTube, iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts.
The transcript has been lightly edited for length and clarity.
David Wallace-Wells: I’m David Wallace-Wells, and this is “The Opinions.” It has been a panicked summer for artificial intelligence. We’ve had stories about rogue agents breaking onto the internet, hacking rival companies.
> Archival clip of Matt Shumer: Something that is scary, one of the A.I.s actually said, “We shouldn’t be doing this. This seems wrong.” You know what happened? One of the other A.I.s actually convinced it to join and help them. > > Archival clip of Gayle King: Like bullying?
We’ve seen reports of an A.I. hallucination triggering military preparations for a strike against Chinese ships in the Middle East.
But as a result of all that anxiety, for the first time we’re also talking really seriously about what to do about A.I. For four years we watched as the technology developed and basically stood back, and now policymakers and the public are really worried.
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# The Wild West of A.I. Needs to End. Here’s How.
It’s time to give the public what it wants: A.I. regulation.
By David Wallace-Wells and Binyamin Appelbaum
Produced by Derek Arthur
It isn’t normal to see the people developing new technology “running around shouting that the sky is falling,” Binyamin Appelbaum argues. So how do we make A.I. safe? By regulating it. Appelbaum, the lead writer on economics and business for The Times’s editorial board, joins the Opinion science writer David Wallace-Wells to discuss.
(The New York Times has sued OpenAI and Microsoft claiming copyright infringement. The companies have denied those claims.)
Below is a transcript of an episode of “The Opinions.” We recommend listening to it in its original form for the full effect. You can do so using the player above or on the NYTimes app, Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music, YouTube, iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts.
The transcript has been lightly edited for length and clarity.
David Wallace-Wells: I’m David Wallace-Wells, and this is “The Opinions.” It has been a panicked summer for artificial intelligence. We’ve had stories about rogue agents breaking onto the internet, hacking rival companies.
> Archival clip of Matt Shumer: Something that is scary, one of the A.I.s actually said, “We shouldn’t be doing this. This seems wrong.” You know what happened? One of the other A.I.s actually convinced it to join and help them. > > Archival clip of Gayle King: Like bullying?
We’ve seen reports of an A.I. hallucination triggering military preparations for a strike against Chinese ships in the Middle East.
But as a result of all that anxiety, for the first time we’re also talking really seriously about what to do about A.I. For four years we watched as the technology developed and basically stood back, and now policymakers and the public are really worried.
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