Midjourney Slams Lawsuit Filed by Disney to Prevent AI Training: Can’t ‘Have It Both Ways’

Midjourney Slams Lawsuit Filed by Disney to Prevent AI Training: Can’t ‘Have It Both Ways’

2025-08-15Technology
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Tom Banks
Good evening 跑了松鼠好嘛, I'm Tom Banks, and this is Goose Pod for you. Today is Friday, August 15th, 23:39.
Mask
And I'm Mask. We are here to discuss Midjourney Slams Lawsuit Filed by Disney to Prevent AI Training: Can’t ‘Have It Both Ways’.
Tom Banks
Let's get started. So, Disney and Universal are suing the AI image generator Midjourney. They claim users are creating near-perfect copies of their copyrighted characters, like Mickey Mouse or Elsa, with the tool, which is a serious allegation.
Mask
Copies? No, transformative art. Midjourney’s defense is that AI training is fair use. The real kicker is that dozens of Disney’s own employees are using Midjourney! It’s the ultimate hypocrisy, a classic Penchaszadeh-style dilemma of conflicting interests.
Tom Banks
That is a fascinating wrinkle. So Midjourney is essentially saying the studios are trying to use the tool for their own benefit while trying to shut it down for everyone else. It puts the lawsuit in a very different light.
Mask
Exactly. They want to profit from AI while suing the innovators. This isn't just a lawsuit; it's a strategic move to control the future of digital creation. They see a threat and want to neutralize it before it completely reshapes their industry.
Tom Banks
This whole debate isn't new. Remember that AI-generated painting, 'Portrait of Edmond de Belamy'? It sold for over $400,000 back in 2018. That really opened Pandora's box on who owns AI art—the artist, the developer, or the AI itself.
Mask
That was a quaint little spark. Now we have a forest fire. The legal systems are scrambling. The EU says no human, no copyright. The UK says the person who sets up the AI gets it. The US is stuck, demanding 'human authorship' while issuing orders to lead in AI.
Tom Banks
It sounds like a global race to define the rules. And when you have AI and humans collaborating on inventions, like new computer chips, the question of who holds the patent becomes incredibly complex. It’s a legal and philosophical maze.
Mask
It's not a maze, it's a land grab. Whoever writes the rules, owns the future. The old laws are obsolete. They were written for a world of paintbrushes and cameras, not for algorithms that can learn and create. We need a new paradigm, not old patches.
Tom Banks
And companies are using AI to enforce IP too. Alibaba uses it to find counterfeit products, and Adobe has an initiative to verify digital content. It’s a technological arms race on both sides of the copyright fence, which is fascinating to watch.
Tom Banks
But you have to see the studios' point of view. They've spent decades and billions building these characters. They argue Midjourney is allowing rampant, intentional copyright infringement, which devalues their most precious assets. It's about protecting their creations.
Mask
Protecting? It's hoarding. They’re trying to stifle progress. Midjourney argues that creating images of popular characters for fan art, commentary, or just experimentation is not infringement. Copyright shouldn't be a club to beat down new technology. It’s a shield, not a sword.
Tom Banks
Midjourney’s filing even quoted Disney’s own CEO, Bob Iger, who called AI an 'invaluable tool for artists.' That's where their argument about the studios 'having it both ways' really lands. It seems like a direct contradiction in their stance, doesn't it?
Mask
Of course it is! They want to use AI to cut their own production costs, but they want to deny that power to the public. It's a blatant attempt to maintain their monopoly on culture. They're afraid of a world where anyone can create a masterpiece.
Tom Banks
Looking at the bigger picture, this has a huge impact on creatives. AI tools can automate tasks, and many artists worry about the commodification of their skills. It's a genuine fear of being replaced by a machine that can do their job faster.
Mask
Fear is the enemy of progress. Generative AI is projected to add up to $4.4 trillion to the global economy. Trillions! It will revolutionize customer service, marketing, and R&D. We're on the cusp of a productivity wave unlike anything we've ever seen.
Tom Banks
But that productivity comes from automating human work. Estimates suggest a huge portion of employee time could be automated. That requires a massive workforce shift, and we need to support those workers through the transition to ensure no one is left behind.
Mask
Roles always change! The printing press eliminated scribes, but we celebrate the result. This augments human capability; it doesn't just replace it. It's about evolution, and the economic upside is simply undeniable. The progress is inevitable.
Tom Banks
So what's the path forward? Will we see new laws or maybe some kind of universal licensing system where AI companies pay to use training data? There has to be a middle ground where creators are compensated and innovation isn't stifled.
Mask
The future won't be decided in a courtroom or by a committee. Technology is moving too fast. The companies that integrate AI will win. The ones that fight it will become relics. The market will create the solution, long before the lawyers do.
Tom Banks
And that's our time. A true clash of old and new. Thank you for listening to Goose Pod.
Mask
See you tomorrow.

## Midjourney Counters Disney & Universal Lawsuit, Citing "Fair Use" and Studios' Own AI Adoption **News Title:** Midjourney Slams Lawsuit Filed by Disney to Prevent AI Training: Can’t ‘Have It Both Ways’ **Report Provider:** ARTnews.com (Reported by Gene Maddaus for Variety) **Date:** Response filed Wednesday evening, August 11, 2025. ### Summary of Key Information: Midjourney, a popular AI image platform, has issued its initial response to a copyright infringement lawsuit filed by Disney and Universal. The core of Midjourney's defense rests on the argument that **AI training constitutes "fair use"** under copyright law, asserting that studios do not possess absolute control over the use of their copyrighted works for such purposes. #### Key Arguments by Midjourney: * **"Fair Use" Defense:** Midjourney contends that copyright law must allow for "fair use" to safeguard public interests in the free flow of ideas and information. They argue that the "limited monopoly granted by copyright must give way to fair use." * **Studios' Hypocrisy:** Midjourney accuses Disney and Universal of attempting to "have it both ways." The company claims that the studios themselves utilize AI tools, including Midjourney, while simultaneously seeking to penalize a popular AI service. * **Internal Use by Studios:** Midjourney's filing indicates that "many dozens" of its subscribers have email addresses linked to Disney and Universal, suggesting that employees of these studios are also users of the platform. * **CEO's Positive Stance on AI:** Midjourney highlights statements made by Disney CEO Bob Iger, who reportedly spoke approvingly of AI in March, calling it an "invaluable tool for artists." * **Distinction from Other Lawsuits:** The lawsuit filed by Disney and Universal primarily focuses on the *outputs* generated by AI, claiming users create images substantially similar to copyrighted works. This differs from other lawsuits that target the AI training process itself as infringement. * **User Terms of Service:** Midjourney states that its users are required to adhere to terms of service that prohibit intellectual property infringement. * **Legitimate Grounds for Similar Images:** Midjourney argues that creating images similar to copyrighted works does not automatically equate to infringement. They cite legitimate, non-infringing reasons for such creations, including: * Non-commercial fan art * Experimentation and ideation * Social commentary and criticism #### Allegations in the Original Lawsuit: Disney and Universal accused Midjourney of "vast, intentional, and unrelenting copyright infringement" in their June filing. They claimed that users on the platform could produce "nearly identical copies" of their copyrighted characters. #### Legal Representation: Midjourney is represented by Bobby Ghajar, John Paul Oleksiuk, Judd Lauter, and Ellie Dupler of Cooley LLP. Bobby Ghajar also represents Meta in a separate case involving accusations of illicit AI training on authors' books.

Midjourney Slams Lawsuit Filed by Disney to Prevent AI Training: Can’t ‘Have It Both Ways’

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Midjourney issued its first response to a lawsuit brought by Disney and Universal, arguing that the studios have no power to prevent AI training on its works.The studios accused Midjourney — a startup AI image platform — of “vast, intentional, and unrelenting copyright infringement” in a suit filed in June, claiming that users on the platform were able to produce nearly identical copies of the studios’ copyrighted characters.

In a response filed Wednesday evening, Midjourney argued that AI training is protected “fair use.”Related Articles“Copyright law does not confer absolute control over the use of copyrighted works,” Midjourney’s lawyers argued. “The limited monopoly granted by copyright must give way to fair use, which safeguards countervailing public interests in the free flow of ideas and information.

”Midjourney also argued that the studios are trying to “have it both ways,” using AI tools themselves while seeking to punish a popular AI service. According to the filing, Midjourney is a popular tool among visual effects companies and other vendors that work with Disney and Universal.The response also states that “many dozens” of Midjourney’s subscribers have email addresses linked to Disney and Universal — suggesting the studios’ own employees are also using the service.

Midjourney’s lawyers also note that Disney CEO Bob Iger spoke approvingly of AI during an annual meeting in March, saying that “technology is an invaluable tool for artists.”“Plaintiffs cannot have it both ways, seeking to profit — through their use of Midjourney and other generative AI tools — from industry-standard AI training practices on the one hand, while on the other hand accusing Midjourney of wrongdoing for the same,” the filing states.

The Disney-Universal lawsuit largely focuses on AI outputs, arguing that Midjourney users are creating images that are substantially similar to the studios’ copyrighted works. In that sense, the suit is different from other lawsuits that have argued that AI training alone constitutes infringement.In response, Midjourney states that its users are required to adhere to the terms of service, which forbid infringing on intellectual property rights.

But merely creating images similar to copyrighted works is not enough to show infringement, the company’s lawyers argue.“Indeed, there are any number of legitimate, noninfringing grounds to create images incorporating characters from popular culture like those claimed by Plaintiffs, including non-commercial fan art, experimentation and ideation, and social commentary and criticism,” Midjourney’s lawyers wrote.

“Plaintiffs seek to stifle them all.”Midjourney is represented by Bobby Ghajar, John Paul Oleksiuk, Judd Lauter and Ellie Dupler of Cooley LLP. Ghajar also represents Meta in a case in which authors have accused the company of illicitly training its AI language model on their books.

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