特朗普接受《60分钟》采访:7大看点

特朗普接受《60分钟》采访:7大看点

2025-11-10Donald Trump
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雷总
早上好 norristong,我是雷总。今天是11月11日,星期二。欢迎收听 Goose Pod。
卿姐
我是卿姐,今天我们来聊聊特朗普接受《60分钟》采访的几大看点。
雷总
是的,这次采访信息量很大。他在自己的海湖庄园,和主持人聊了快90分钟,但最后播出的只有27分钟。很多劲爆的话题,比如他吹嘘自己告赢了CBS的母公司派拉蒙,拿了1600万美金的和解费,这些都被剪掉了。
卿姐
剪掉的往往比播出的更有意味。就像那被省略的诗句,留给人的想象空间反而更大。比如关于他特赦币安创始人赵长鹏的部分,他说自己根本不认识这个人,还说这是“拜登的政治迫害”,这番言论就相当耐人寻味。
雷总
没错!他一边说不认识,一边又摆出要支持加密货币行业的姿态。这种操作手法,典型的特朗普风格。另外,他还提到了委内瑞拉,虽然没明说要不要打,但直接放话说总统马杜罗的日子“屈指可数”了。这种强硬姿态,其实和他对待盟友的方式一脉相承。
卿姐
是的,这种“极限施压”的外交方式,虽然看似直接,但其实也疏远了许多传统盟友,反而给了竞争者更多空间。我想,这大概就是所谓的“一将功成万骨枯”在国际关系中的一种体现吧,只是这里的“枯”是信任和友谊。
雷总
说到国际关系,这次采访的重点之一就是中美关系,特别是稀土问题。特朗普宣布,通过谈判,“稀土威胁”已经“完全消失了”。朋友们,我给大家解释一下,稀土是高科技产业的维生素,从手机到武器都离不开它。
卿姐
雷总解释得很形象。中国在稀土领域确实有“点石成金”的能力。我想起邓小平先生当年的远见,他说“中东有石油,中国有稀土”。这不仅仅是一种资源自信,更是一种深远的战略布局,经过二三十年的积累,才有了今天的优势。
雷总
完全正确!特朗普也承认,中国积累了二三十年,而别的国家没这么做。但他话锋一转,说美国现在自己也有了“巨大的稀土储量”,很快大家都会有,中国的优势也就不再是优势了。这种说法,既承认了现实,又展现了不服输的姿态。
卿姐
这种不服输的背后,其实是两国间长期的角力与博弈。就如同高手过招,一招一式都蕴含着内力。这次采访能够成行,本身也很有趣,因为就在一年前,特朗普还起诉了CBS的母公司,说他们恶意剪辑。如今又能坐下来谈,可见在政治世界里,没有永恒的敌人。
雷总
没错,充满了戏剧性。采访里另一个冲突点是关于移民和ICE,也就是移民及海关执法局的。主持人提到ICE的一些粗暴执法视频,比如对年轻妈妈使用催泪瓦斯,但特朗普直接回应说:“不,我觉得他们做得还不够。”
卿姐
“做得还不够”,这句话真是充满了寒意。它像一把锋利的刀,划开了美国社会内部巨大的裂痕。一边是追求秩序与安全的强硬声音,另一边则是对人道主义和个体尊严的担忧。这种撕裂感,恐怕是当下许多社会共同面临的困境。
雷总
是的,他还把矛头指向了纽约市长候选人,民主党社会主义者佐兰·马姆达尼。特朗普甚至威胁说,如果一个“共产主义者”管理纽约,那么作为总统,他很难再给纽约市大笔的联邦资金。这种直接干预地方选举的言论,争议非常大。
卿姐
这番话语,无疑是将意识形态的冲突摆上了台面。政治本应是“求同存异”的艺术,但当它演变成非黑即白的站队,那便失去了它应有的智慧和温度。这也让我想起他一直以来将所有对他的调查都称为“政治迫害”或“猎巫行动”的说法。
雷总
说到影响,我们来看看市场。他和中方达成的贸易休战协议,听上去是好消息,但华尔街似乎并不买账。有分析师说,当好消息出来市场却没反应,说明这个消息的价值已经被提前消化了。这很符合逻辑,资本市场看的总是预期。
卿姐
资本无情,却也最诚实。它反映的是一种集体的信心。这种短暂的休战,或许能暂时缓解紧张气氛,但并未能从根本上消除不确定性。就如同暴风雨前短暂的宁静,空气中依然弥漫着潮湿的气息,大家都还在观望。
雷总
是的,特别是中国的稀土出口管制,虽然暂停了一年,但随时可能重启。这就像悬在很多科技公司头顶的达摩克利斯之剑。白宫也在密切评估这些规则对全球技术供应链的冲击。这对全球产业链的稳定,是个不小的考验。
雷总
展望未来,采访里也留下了悬念。当被问到2028年是否会第三次竞选总统时,特朗普没有明确回答,只是说“很多人希望我参选”,并且炫耀了一下共和党的人才储备。他还点名了副总统万斯和卢比奥。
卿姐
未来的画卷总是充满了未知,但也正因如此才引人遐想。无论他是否参选,他所代表的政治风格和引发的社会思潮,都将持续影响着未来的政治格局。就如同投入湖中的石子,涟漪会一圈圈地扩散开去。
雷总
说得好。今天的讨论就到这里。感谢收听 Goose Pod。
卿姐
我们明天再见。

特朗普接受《60分钟》采访,谈及币安、委内瑞拉、中美稀土、移民及纽约市长选举。他展现强硬姿态,声称稀土威胁已消失,并批评移民政策不够严厉。尽管与CBS母公司曾有诉讼,此次采访仍具戏剧性,反映出政治的复杂性与不确定性。

Donald Trump’s ‘60 Minutes’ interview: 7 major takeaways

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President Donald Trump spent nearly 90 minutes speaking to CBS ‘60 Minutes’ host Norah O’Donnell at his Florida residence of Mar-a-Lago on Friday, talking about the ongoing government shutdown, his vision for the country, and who will succeed him.It was Trump’s first sit-down interview with CBS News since, almost exactly a year ago, the president sued the news channel’s parent company Paramount for allegedly editing an interview with Kamala Harris in a way that he claimed was deceptive.

Paramount settled that lawsuit this summer for $16 million, without an apology or an admission of wrongdoing. The interview with O’Donnell was aired on Sunday. Here are the main highlights from the hour-and-a-half long conversation.1. Donald Trump Says China Won’t Be Able To Use Rare Earth Minerals Leverage for LongTrump and China’s President Xi Jinping met in South Korea last week, announcing closer trade ties between their two countries.

The U.S. president said he was cutting the "fentanyl tariff" on Chinese goods from 20 percent to 10 percent. In return, Xi said China would ease its chokehold on rare earth minerals, agreeing to delay the introduction of its latest round of export controls. During the 60 Minutes interview, Trump told O’Donnell that he "got sort of everything that we wanted" from the deal.

"We got-- no rare earth threat. That’s gone, completely gone," he said."But-- we have-- billions and billions of dollars coming in, and we have a very good relationship. I mean, we have-- a great relationship with a powerful country. And I’ve always felt if we can make deals that are good, it’s better to get along with China than not, if you can’t make the right kind of a deal than not, because, you know, China, along with many other countries (they're not alone in this), they've ripped us off from day one."

They’ve ripped us so much. They’ve taken trillions of dollars out of our country. And now they’re-- it’s the opposite. I mean, we’re doing very well with China, and hopefully they’re gonna do very well with us. But I do think it’s important that China and the U.S. get along, and we get along very well at the top."

Trump also told O’Donnell that China won’t be able to use his dominance on the rare earth minerals sector for long. "The power they have is rare earth because of the fact that they’ve been accumulating it and-- and really taking care of it for a period of 25, 30 years. Other countries haven’t. Now we are.

I mean, we have tremendous rare earth, and it’s going to be-- you know, it’s going to be-- it’ll be a strength, but it won’t really be a strength if everybody has it. Everyone’s gonna have it pretty soon."2. Donald Trump Says U.S. Needs To Start Nuclear TestingLast week, Trump ordered the Pentagon to immediately resume testing of nuclear weapons, generating puzzlement among the public and officials.

In his interview with CBS News, he confirmed that he wants the U.S. to start testing nuclear weapons again to keep up with the countries which, he says, are already doing it."Russia’s testing, and China’s testing, but they don’t talk about it. You know, we’re an open society. We’re different. We talk about it.

We have to talk about it, because otherwise you people are gonna report-- they don’t have reporters that gonna be writing about it. We do. No, we’re gonna test, because they test and others test. And certainly North Korea's been testing. Pakistan’s been testing."We have the best, and I was the one that renovated them and built them during a four-year period.

And I hated to do it, because the destructive capability is something you don’t even wanna talk about. But if other people are gonna have ‘em, we’re gonna have to have ‘em."And if we have ‘em, we have to test ‘em, otherwise you don’t really know how they’re gonna work. And we don’t wanna ever use them."

3. Donald Trump Will Cut Down Funding to New York if Zohran Mamdani Wins The president spoke negatively about 34-year-old Democratic Socialist Zohran Mamdani, who is the favorite to win New York City’s mayoral election on Tuesday, November 4. The latest polls give him ahead by several points over his rivals Andrew Cuomo and Curtis Sliwa.

Trump, as a New Yorker with strong financial ties to the city, told O’Donnell: "It’s gonna be hard for me as the president to give a lot of money to New York. Because if you have a Communist running New York, all you’re doing is wasting the money you’re sending there."Trump said he would rather have Cuomo winning in the city.

"So I don’t know that he’s won, and I’m not a fan of Cuomo one way or the other, but if it’s gonna be between a bad Democrat and a Communist, I’m gonna pick the bad Democrat all the time, to be honest with you."4. Donald Trump Dismisses War Against Venezuela Last week, The Wall Street Journal reported that the Trump administration had identified targets in Venezuela including military facilities used to smuggle drugs, and the Miami Herald cited anonymous sources saying that the U.

S. was getting ready to strike them at any moment.While the latter report was dismissed by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who called it a "fake story," tensions have grown in the Caribbean over the weekend. "I wouldn’t be inclined to say that I would do that," Trump told O’Donnell after the 60 Minutes host asked him about the possibility of striking targets on the ground in Venezuela.

"But-- because I don’t talk to a reporter about whether or not I’m gonna strike. I’m not gonna-- you know, you're a wonderful reporter, you’re very talented, but I’m not gonna tell you what I’m gonna do with Venezuela, if I was gonna do it or if I wasn’t going to do it.Asked whether the country was going to war with Venezuela, Trump told O’Donnell: "I doubt it.

I don’t think so. But they’ve been treating us very badly, not only on drugs—they’ve dumped hundreds of thousands of people into our country that we didn’t want, people from prisons-- they emptied their prisons into our country."Trump, however, told O’Donnell that Venezuela’s President Nicolás Maduro’s days are numbered.

5. Donald Trump Says ICE Has Not Gone Far EnoughConfronted about the tactics used by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) agents over the past few months, which have sparked protests across the country from Los Angeles to Chicago, Trump defended officers’ actions.O’Donnell asked Trump: "More recently, Americans have been watching videos of ICE tackling a young mother, tear gas being used in a Chicago residential neighborhood, and the smashing of car windows.

Have some of these raids gone too far?"The president responded: "No. I think they haven’t gone far enough because we’ve been held back by the-- by the judges, by the liberal judges that were put in by Biden and by Obama."6. Donald Trump Says He Does Not Know Who Changpeng Zhao Is, Despite Pardoning Him Despite pardoning him only last month, the president told O’Donnell he did not know who cryptocurrency multibillionaire Changpeng Zhao was."

I don’t know who he is. I know he got a four-month sentence or something like that. And I heard it was a Biden witch hunt," he said. "But this man was treated really badly by the Biden administration. And he was given a jail term. He’s highly respected. He’s a very successful guy. They sent him to jail and they really set him up.

That’s my opinion. I was told about it," he added."I said, ‘Eh, it may look bad if I do it. I have to do the right thing.’ I don’t know the man at all. I don’t think I ever met him. Maybe I did. Or, you know, somebody shook my hand or something. But I don’t think I ever met him. I have no idea who he is.

I was told that he was a victim, just like I was and just like many other people, of a vicious, horrible group of people in the Biden administration."Zhao, the co-founder of crypto exchange Binance, pleaded guilty to money laundering in 2023 and served four months in prison, while also stepping down as chief executive of the company.

Trump pardoned him last month, with White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt saying Zhao had been persecuted as part of the Biden administration "war on cryptocurrency"—a sector that Trump has strongly supported during his second term in the White House.7. Donald Trump Suggests Possible Successors for 2028Trump was also asked about rumors that he may run for a third term in 2028, which he himself has contributed to fueling, while never clearly saying whether he will or not seek reelection—despite the obstacle represented by the Constitution’s 22nd Amendment."

I don’t even think about it I will tell you, a lotta people want me to run. But the difference between us and the Democrats is we really do have a strong bench. I don’t wanna use names, because it’s, you know, inappropriate. But it’s too early. We’re talking three-and-a-quarter years," he said.Prompted to talk about Vice President JD Vance and Rubio, who have recently been mentioned as potential candidates for the 2028 presidential election, Trump said: "I do like JD Vance.

Or secretary Marco Rubio. I like so many people. We have an unbelievable bench. We could run two people together. We have a great bench."

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