Business optimism collapses under Trump

Business optimism collapses under Trump

2025-06-29Business
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纪飞
各位听众,早上好!我是纪飞,欢迎收听专为您打造的<Goose Pod>。今天是6月29日,星期日。
国荣
大家好,我是国荣。嗯,今天我们要聊聊一个挺严肃的话题,就是特朗普执政时期,商业乐观情绪是如何一步步‘崩塌’的。
纪飞
好的,那我们就直入主题吧。最近的数据真是让人大跌眼镜啊,美国企业的乐观情绪几乎是‘腰斩’,直接跌到了谷底。
国荣
是啊,这可不是小事。摩根大通的调查就显示,企业乐观情绪从一月份的65%直接降到了六月份的32%。而且,预计今年会衰退的受访者,更是从8%飙升到了25%,这数字确实挺吓人的。
纪飞
嗯,这确实让人非常担忧。你看,会议委员会的CEO信心报告也出来了,第二季度的CEO信心竟然下降了26点,只有34,这可是48年以来最陡峭的跌幅啊。真的是,感觉大家信心都快跌没了。
国荣
哇,连这些身经百战的CEO都这么悲观了,那普通消费者呢?他们的信心又如何?是不是也跟着一路下滑了?
纪飞
没错,消费者信心指数在六月份也跌到了93.0。更值得注意的是,短期预期指数更是降到了69.0。要知道,这通常被认为是经济衰退的一个非常明确的信号,所以,情况确实不容乐观。
国荣
嗯,听你这么一说,感觉这全面的信心危机,好像不仅仅是单一因素造成的。是不是主要源于特朗普政府的政策,再加上一些国际局势的影响呢?我理解得对吗?
纪飞
是的,你说的非常精准。核心问题正是特朗普的贸易议程,尤其是那些关税政策,它们直接引发了股市的剧烈波动,也让企业对成本充满了担忧。当然,地缘政治的不确定性,也在这其中扮演了非常重要的角色。
国荣
所以啊,归根结底,就是这些关税政策和全球范围内的不确定性,让大家对未来充满了问号,甚至都开始预期经济会衰退了。哎,这日子过得可真不省心。
纪飞
没错,正是这种弥漫着的不确定性,让很多企业都不敢轻易出手。他们纷纷延迟了原本的投资和招聘计划,毕竟,谁也不想在迷雾中盲目投入啊。
国荣
嗯,那我们不妨深入了解一下这现象背后的原因吧。其实,特朗普执政初期,经济信心一度非常高涨,但随着他贸易政策的逐步推行,这个趋势就突然逆转了,这挺有意思的。
纪飞
是的,当时大家对税改和放松管制确实抱有非常高的期望。但谁能想到呢?随着贸易战的打响,那种一度高涨的乐观情绪就开始迅速消退了,这确实是出乎很多人的意料。
国荣
没错。我个人觉得,他推行的那些关税政策,真的是给企业带来了巨大的不确定性:进口成本更高了,供应链也因此被打乱,更要命的是,企业连未来的计划都很难制定了。这不就像在迷宫里找路吗?
纪飞
嗯,你这个比喻很形象。这就像我们平时买东西,突然告诉你要额外加税,你肯定会犹豫吧?企业也是一样,在进行大笔投资之前,他们必须要看清楚政策的走向,才敢迈出那一步。
国荣
对,所以说,这种不确定性直接就影响了投资和招聘。而且,贸易战还引来了其他国家的报复性关税,这可真是让美国的出口商雪上加霜,感觉有点像‘自己挖坑自己跳’啊。
纪飞
嗯,听你这么分析,这不就是一种恶性循环吗?关税增加了企业的运营成本,这种不确定性又让大家不敢轻易投资,最终,这股负面效应就传导到了整个经济体,导致了经济的放缓。
国荣
是的,而且这种不确定性可不只局限于贸易领域。你知道吗?特朗普政府的外交政策也常常让人捉摸不透,这无疑又增加了全球的地缘政治风险,感觉就像是定时炸弹,不知道什么时候会响。
纪飞
我明白了,所以说,不只是那些具体的贸易措施,连政府行为本身的不可预测性,都让整个市场坐立不安。看来,这个‘不确定性’本身,就已经成了经济增长道路上的一大障碍了。
国荣
完全正确。而且,消费者这边也变得更加谨慎了。大家开始担心经济会放缓,甚至出现通胀,那自然而然就会减少不必要的开支,这样一来,又进一步拖累了整体经济,真是环环相扣啊。
纪飞
哎,听你这么一说,真是牵一发而动全身。那有没有一个具体的、特别明显的转折点,标志着这种信心开始大幅下滑呢?
国荣
嗯,当然有。我记得,在特朗普执政期间的某年二月份,消费者信心可是经历了近四年以来最大的月度跌幅,而且,这个跌幅直接就和贸易政策的不确定性紧密挂钩,非常明显。
纪飞
哦,那可真是个很关键的时间点。看来,贸易政策的信号一旦释放出来,市场和消费者的反应就会非常直接,甚至可以说是立竿见影啊。
国荣
是的。更让人担忧的是,消费者信心指数还连续四个月持续下降,这可不是短期波动。主要的幕后推手,依然是贸易政策的不确定性,尤其是那些关税问题,简直是消费者最关心、也最头疼的问题了。
纪飞
连续四个月下降,这可不是简单的短期波动,这说明问题已经相当严重了,而且是持续地在影响着大家的信心和决策,不容小觑啊。
国荣
嗯,所以总的来说,特朗普政府的贸易政策,特别是那些关税,再加上全球地缘政治的各种不确定性,这两者共同构成了这次商业和消费者信心崩塌的根本原因,是个‘组合拳’。
纪飞
好的,那我们聊了这么多原因,但经济问题往往不是非黑即白的,有没有一些不同的观点呢?或者说,有没有人看到一些积极的方面?
国荣
嗯,当然有不同的声音。你看,特朗普的贸易议程,它最初的初衷,其实是为了保护国内的产业,这本身没有错。但问题是,这样做的代价,就是企业和消费者的成本都变得更高了,这就像是‘按下葫芦浮起瓢’。
纪飞
嗯,确实是把双刃剑。一方面是想保护‘自己人’,但另一方面呢,可能反而让大家的日子都不太好过。那对于企业界来说,他们具体是怎么应对的呢?有没有一些代表性的声音?
国荣
嗯,说到这个,摩根大通的马特·赛布尔就提到了,现在的企业领导们,都在非常谨慎地应对政策不确定性和市场的剧烈波动。他们正在努力校准自己的战略,希望能在这片迷雾中,找到一个清晰的方向,挺不容易的。
纪飞
听起来,他们现在可真是‘摸着石头过河’啊。那牛津经济研究院的马修·马丁,他对目前的经济形势又有什么样的看法呢?
国荣
马丁认为,在高不确定性的时期,企业确实会倾向于推迟那些重大的决策。这很可能导致私人投资的下降,从而让整体经济增长放缓,甚至招聘的速度也会明显减慢,形成一个连锁反应。
纪飞
嗯,这确实解释了为什么有这么多企业都在延迟他们的计划。那马丁有没有提到,地缘政治因素对经济的影响呢?
国荣
是的。马丁还特别补充了一点,就是中东地区紧张局势的加剧,对全球经济来说,又是一次不利的供给冲击。他说,只要石油供应出现任何变化,都会在国内经济中产生连锁反应,这可真是牵一发而动全身啊。
纪飞
嗯,看来地缘政治风险确实就像一把悬在大家头上的达摩克利斯之剑,让人时刻提心吊胆。那从消费者方面来看,他们的信心又受到什么影响了呢?
国荣
会议委员会的斯蒂芬妮·吉查德就表示,消费者信心的下降是非常普遍的现象。而且,大家对当前的商业状况评估也变得更不乐观了。她特别强调,关税问题依然是消费者最最关心的问题,因为它直接关系到大家的‘钱袋子’。
纪飞
所以,整体来看,大家普遍还是比较悲观的,是吧?不过,在这些担忧之中,有没有那么一丁点稍微积极的信号呢?总不能一悲到底吧?
国荣
哎,你还别说,确实有那么一丝曙光。摩根大通的调查中就显示,竟然有78%的受访者预计,他们今年的收入和销售额将保持不变,或者甚至会有所增加。这倒是挺出人意料的。
纪飞
哇,这数据还真是意想不到!这说明大家虽然对大环境有所担忧,但对自己的生意和未来,还是抱有一定的韧性和信心的。那说到这,美联储主席鲍威尔,他又是怎么看待目前这种局面的呢?
国荣
鲍威尔主席上周表示,从整体来看,美国经济目前‘状况良好’。但是,他话锋一转,也警告说,关税的影响带来了‘非常高的不确定性’,并且预测未来几个月,通胀将会‘显著增加’。看来,他也是喜忧参半啊。
纪飞
嗯,所以说,美联储的态度是谨慎乐观,他们看到了经济的积极面,但同时,对于关税可能带来的通胀风险,他们还是保持着非常高度的警惕,真是两手抓啊。
国荣
好的,那我们聊了这么多,这种信心普遍下降的情况,究竟会给经济带来哪些具体的、看得见摸得着的影响呢?
纪飞
嗯,最直接的影响,就是很多企业都纷纷推迟了他们的商业计划。摩根大通的调查就显示,有高达44%的企业今年都推迟了计划,而其中74%的企业,更是将原因归结为‘政策不确定性’,这比例可不低。
国荣
没错,这直接就意味着,整个社会的投资和招聘都会随之放缓。你看,马修·马丁之前也特别提到了这一点,看来大家英雄所见略同啊。
纪飞
是的,马丁就认为,这种高度的不确定性,会让企业不得不推迟那些重大的投资和招聘计划。而这,又会导致私人投资的下降,进而拖累整个经济的增长速度,甚至还会减缓实际收入和消费者的支出,影响可不小。
国荣
嗯,就是大家手里的钱都开始捂紧了,不敢轻易花出去了。那对于我们普通消费者来说,这种信心下降,最直接、最切身的感受又会是什么呢?
纪飞
最直接的感受,可能就是我们的生活成本会变得更高。斯蒂芬妮·吉查德就指出,关税依然是消费者最最关心的问题,因为大家普遍担心,这些关税会直接导致物价上涨,让我们的‘菜篮子’和‘钱袋子’都面临压力。
国荣
所以啊,看来不仅仅是企业,连我们普通老百姓的‘钱袋子’都会实实在在地受到影响。那从更宏观的层面来看,这种信心下降,有没有可能导致更严重、更深层次的经济问题呢?
纪飞
嗯,彼得·西蒙就提出了一个警告,他认为鉴于中东地区新的战事和美国的介入,全球的不确定性依然是个巨大的问题。他特别担心,伊朗的石油问题可能会导致通胀和衰退同时出现,也就是我们常说的‘滞胀’,这种风险正在上升。
国荣
‘滞胀’这个词听起来就让人紧张啊。那在这种情况下,美联储又能扮演什么样的角色呢?他们有没有办法来缓解大家的这些担忧?
纪飞
嗯,这倒是挺有趣的。有研究表明,货币政策的确定性,反而能在地缘政治风险高的时候,起到稳定消费者情绪的作用。因为消费者会预期,美联储会采取一些行动来稳定经济,给市场吃下一颗‘定心丸’。
国荣
哦,我明白了,所以美联储就像一个‘定海神针’一样,他们的存在和行动,能够在一定程度上抵消掉这种不确定性带来的负面影响,给市场带来一些信心,是吧?
纪飞
好的,那面对目前这些挑战,从长远来看,未来有没有一些潜在的解决方案或者说趋势呢?我们能从中学到什么?
国荣
嗯,专家们普遍认为,要解决目前的困境,政策制定者首先需要实施更清晰、更一致的贸易政策,这样才能有效减少市场的不确定性,给企业一个稳定的预期。
纪飞
没错,明确的规则才能给人安全感。那除了贸易政策,货币政策方面呢?美联储在这种局面下,还能发挥什么样的作用?
国荣
是的,货币政策也需要被有效运用起来,比如说,通过灵活的利率调整,来稳定消费者的情绪,同时也能增强整体经济的韧性,让它能更好地应对外部冲击。
纪飞
所以说,央行在稳定市场信心方面,真的是至关重要的角色。那从更长远的角度来看,还有哪些趋势可能会持续影响全球经济呢?
国荣
嗯,我认为,持续的地缘政治发展,尤其是中东地区的局势,未来将继续深刻地影响全球经济的走向和市场信心。这就像一个‘潘多拉的盒子’,随时可能带来新的变数。
纪飞
嗯,也就是说,未来的经济发展,我们不仅要看国内的政策和市场,国际局势的影响力也是不容忽视的。那对于我们普通听众来说,又能从今天的讨论中学到些什么呢?
国荣
嗯,我觉得,面对这种种不确定性,政策的透明度和稳定性显得尤为重要。而对于我们个人和企业来说,也需要保持一个长期的视角,并且学会灵活地调整自己的策略,才能更好地应对未来的挑战。
纪飞
好的,那今天的讨论就到这里告一段落了。非常感谢各位听众收听<Goose Pod>。
国荣
我们下期节目再见!

# Comprehensive News Summary: Business Optimism Collapses Under Trump ## News Metadata * **News Title**: Business optimism collapses under Trump * **Report Provider**: Newsweek * **Author**: Hugh Cameron * **Publication Date**: June 25, 2025, 15:18:19 ET * **Surveys Covered**: * JPMorgan Chase & Co.'s Business Leaders Outlook Survey (conducted June 4-18, 2025) * The Conference Board's CEO Confidence Report (Q2 2025) * The Conference Board's Consumer Confidence Survey (June 2025) ## Summary of Key Findings Recent surveys indicate a significant decline in confidence among U.S. business leaders and consumers, primarily driven by President Donald Trump's trade policies, tariffs, and broader geopolitical uncertainties. This widespread anxiety is raising concerns about a potential economic slowdown or recession. ### 1. Business Leaders' Confidence (JPMorgan Chase & Co. Survey) * **Halved Optimism**: Optimism among business leaders for the U.S. economy fell to **32 percent in June** from **65 percent in January 2025**, representing a halving of confidence. * **Recession Expectations**: The percentage of respondents expecting a recession to occur this year surged from **8 percent in January** to **25 percent in June**. * **Survey Demographics**: The survey included over **700 owners and executives** from middle-market businesses (annual revenues ranging from $20 million to $500 million). * **Delayed Business Plans**: **44 percent** (four in 10) reported delaying business plans. * **74 percent** cited "policy uncertainty" as the reason. * Of this group, **37 percent** cited market volatility and shifts in customer demand, while **35 percent** listed geopolitical events. * **Top Challenges**: Business leaders highlighted: * Uncertain economic conditions (**55 percent**) * Tariffs (**41 percent**) * Revenue and sales growth (**41 percent**) * **Future Outlook (Despite Concerns)**: Despite declining optimism, **78 percent** of respondents still expect revenue and sales to either increase or remain the same this year. ### 2. CEO Confidence (The Conference Board Report) * **Significant Decline**: The Conference Board's CEO confidence report saw a **26-point decline** in the second quarter, reaching **34**. This level is below the **50-point threshold** (indicating more negative responses than positive) and is the **lowest since the end of 2022**. * **Historical Steepness**: This marks the **steepest quarterly decline in the survey's 48-year history**. * **Main Risks**: CEOs primarily cited tariffs and geopolitical instability as the main sources of risk for their industries. ### 3. Consumer Confidence (The Conference Board Survey) * **Unexpected Drop**: The Consumer Confidence Index fell by **5.4 points in June** to **93.0**, contrary to consensus forecasts anticipating an improvement. * **Broad Deterioration**: Both the Present Situations Index (measuring perceptions of current business and labor market conditions) and the short-term Expectations Index dropped. * **Recession Signal**: The short-term Expectations Index fell to **69.0**, which is "well below the 80-point threshold" and "typically signals a recession ahead," according to The Conference Board. * **Consumer Concerns**: Tariffs remained a top concern for consumers, frequently associated with negative impacts on the economy and prices. ## Context and Interpretation The primary driver of these anxieties is President Trump's trade agenda, which has led to significant stock market volatility and fears of rising costs for businesses and consumers. While a recent pause on reciprocal tariffs and easing U.S.-China trade tensions offered some relief, the surveys were largely conducted before the recent conflict between Israel and Iran and America's targeted strikes, which could further exacerbate economic anxieties. ## Expert Commentary * **Matt Sable (Co-Head of J.P. Morgan Commercial Banking)**: Stated that business leaders are "managing through a lot of unknowns" and "thoughtfully recalibrating their strategic plans." He emphasized concerns over "uncertain economic conditions," "tariffs," "policy uncertainty," and "geopolitical events," while noting businesses are operating with a long-term view. * **Matthew Martin (U.S. senior economist at Oxford Economics)**: Explained that high uncertainty provides "a strong incentive to defer such major business decisions, whether investment or staffing," which is expected to lead to a decline in private fixed investment, slower overall growth, slower hiring, and reduced real income growth and consumer spending. He also warned that "Rising Middle East tensions represent another adverse supply shock to the economy." * **Stephanie Guichard (senior economist for Global Indicators at The Conference Board)**: Noted that consumer confidence weakened "broad-based across components," with consumers being "less positive about current business conditions." She reiterated that "Tariffs remained on top of consumers' minds." * **Peter Simon (professor at Northeastern University's Department of Economics)**: Highlighted that economic uncertainty "is still a big issue in the world given the new war between Israel and Iran and especially now that the US is involved." He warned of "the risk of inflation and recession (stagflation)" due to the oil issue with Iran, and stressed that declining consumer confidence is a "grave concern" because "when consumers are uncertain of the economy they stop buying." ## What Happens Next Despite the widespread decline in confidence, Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell stated last week that the economy was "in solid shape" after the central bank opted to hold off on interest rate cuts. However, Powell also acknowledged "very high uncertainty" due to tariffs, forecasting a "meaningful increase in inflation in coming months from tariffs." The ongoing geopolitical developments, particularly in the Middle East, are poised to further influence economic conditions and confidence levels.

Business optimism collapses under Trump

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Business leaders' confidence in the U.S. economy has halved since the beginning of the year, according to JPMorgan Chase & Co., as companies grapple with the impact of President Donald Trump's tariffs and broader geopolitical uncertainties.The financial services firm's latest Business Leaders Outlook Survey, released Wednesday, found that optimism for the economy fell to 32 percent in June from 65 percent in January.

Additionally, 25 percent of respondents said they expect a recession to occur at some point this year, up from only 8 percent in January.Why It MattersConcerns over the trajectory of the U.S. economy have been fueled largely by Trump's trade agenda, which has led to significant stock market volatility and heightened fears of rising costs for both businesses and consumers.

However, these anxieties have been somewhat tempered by the current pause on reciprocal tariffs, as well as the temporary easing of trading tensions between the United States and China.While the survey was largely conducted prior to the start of the recent conflict between Israel and Iran and was completed before America's targeted strikes over the weekend, this could contribute to these existing economic anxieties.

One expert told Newsweek that a re-escalation would represent "another adverse supply shock to the economy."What To KnowJPMorgan's survey was conducted between June 4 and June 18, drawing responses from over 700 owners and executives representing middle-market businesses, defined as those with annual revenues ranging from $20 million to $500 million.

Four in 10 (44 percent) reported delaying their business plans to some extent this year, with 74 percent citing "policy uncertainty" as the reason for this decision. Of this group, 37 percent cited market volatility and shifts in customer demand, while 35 percent listed geopolitical events as a contributing factor.

Overall, the challenges highlighted by business leaders included uncertain economic conditions (55 percent), tariffs (41 percent), and revenue and sales growth (41 percent).President Donald Trump speaks to reporters before boarding Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House on June 24, 2025.Evan Vucci/AP Photo The results mirror those of the Conference Board's recent report on CEO confidence, which saw a 26-point decline in the second quarter to 34.

This fell further below the 50-point threshold, indicating more negative responses than positive, and reached the lowest level since the end of 2022.The New York-based think tank noted that this was the steepest quarterly decline in the survey's 48-year history. CEOs cited tariffs and geopolitical instability as the main sources of risk for their industries.

Tuesday also saw the release of the Conference Board's latest Consumer Confidence Survey. This closely monitored gauge signals shifts in consumer sentiment and consumer spending, a major contributor to the nation's economy.The Consumer Confidence Index fell by 5.4 points in June to 93.0, despite consensus forecasts anticipating an improvement from May.

The Present Situations Index, which measures consumers' perceptions of current business and labor market conditions, also fell, while the short-term Expectations Index dropped to 69.0, well below the 80-point threshold.The think tank said this "typically signals a recession ahead.""Tariffs remained on top of consumers' minds and were frequently associated with concerns about their negative impacts on the economy and prices," said Stephanie Guichard, senior economist for Global Indicators at The Conference Board.

What People Are SayingMatt Sable, Co-Head of J.P. Morgan Commercial Banking, told Newsweek: "Business leaders are managing through a lot of unknowns – from policy uncertainty to market volatility and beyond – and are thoughtfully recalibrating their strategic plans as they seek more clarity about the future."

"Business leaders are most concerned about uncertain economic conditions heading into the second half of the year," he continued. "Other key factors like tariffs, policy uncertainty and geopolitical events are top of mind as well. While the near-term may seem uncertain, they're operating with a long-term view, focusing on what they can control to run and grow their businesses."

Matthew Martin, U.S. senior economist at Oxford Economics, told Newsweek: "When uncertainty is high, there is a strong incentive to defer such major business decisions, whether investment or staffing, until the situation is clearer. This is a major reason to expect private fixed investment to decline this year, contributing to slower growth overall, and a slower pace of business hiring, which will slow the rise in real income growth (and therefore consumer spending)."

Martin added, "Rising Middle East tensions represent another adverse supply shock to the economy. While for now the worst of scenarios seems to have been averted for now, any change in supply of oil into markets would have ramifications domestically."Stephanie Guichard, senior economist for Global Indicators at The Conference Board, said: "Consumer confidence weakened in June, erasing almost half of May's sharp gains.

The decline was broad-based across components, with consumers' assessments of the present situation and their expectations for the future both contributing to the deterioration. Consumers were less positive about current business conditions than May."Peter Simon, professor at Northeastern University's Department of Economics, told Newsweek that economic uncertainty "is still a big issue in the world given the new war between Israel and Iran and especially now that the US is involved."

"Of course, the risk of inflation and recession (stagflation) are on the rise because of the oil issue with Iran," Simon said, adding that measured declines in consumer confidence are also a grave concern, as "when consumers are uncertain of the economy they stop buying."What Happens NextDespite declining optimism and growing fears over a recession, 78 percent of respondents in JPMorgan's survey also said they expect revenue and sales to either increase or remain the same this year.

Last week, Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell said the economy was "in solid shape," after the central bank opted to hold off on interest rate cuts.However, Powell warned of "very high uncertainty" due to the impact of tariffs, adding: "Everyone that I know is forecasting a meaningful increase in inflation in coming months from tariffs."

Update, 06/25/25, 7:18 a.m. ET: This article was updated with comment from Matt Sable, Co-Head of J.P. Morgan Commercial Banking.Update, 06/25/25, 11:15 a.m. ET: This article was updated to clarify when the survey took place.

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